Skills Expansion: Bugs Report & Ideas

#45 Reply
Posted by Sch123 on 03 Oct, 2018 20:49
This is good news, I'm also ready to do the testing & feedback.

#46 Reply
Posted by steffire3 on 04 Oct, 2018 01:17
@doudley I gladly approve of the Alternate Outfits mod!

Should I also open that mod and send it's Media file? Should I use Google Shared Docs for this stuff, Email it or use some other shared file service?

Icy Claw's mods seem to be a priority so I should make a note to gain access using Guts and send those Media Files.

I also apologize for the lack of planned coordination on Steam. Should I start a General Mod Discussion over there?

#47 Reply
Posted by Sch123 on 04 Oct, 2018 15:16
Hi @steffire3

I have also tried "Complete Berserker Overhaul Mod", in my opinion the function of the aura in the mod is more to improve the original skill.

For example, adding damage, attack distance, duration of skill, etc. So, it's not so special because you can get it in the "General Skill" section on Skills Expansion Mod. This aura only makes the skill stronger than the original if you use an aura, and as a compensation your "MP" will decrease from the Max number of "MP" you have if you use an aura. But if the aura is turned off then the MP will return to normal.

#48 Reply
Posted by doudley on 04 Oct, 2018 19:14
@steffire3 Here is fine. We won't have Sch123 there. You can upload the unpacked files anywhere you like, you can even attached it here.

Guys, I'll try to complete the test mod for Skills Expansion mod (Ver2) this week. Please give me a re-cap again on what more changes needed for the current build (Ver1) so I can apply it efficiently.

Does this list still applies?

Steam Community :: Skills Expansion :: Discussions

steamcommunity.com

I also need unpacked files of the Armor Fix Fixed
http://torchmodders.com/forums/mod-showcase/armor-fix-fixed/

Whenever I think it's enough to be build, I'll post the download link here for steffire3 to compile or if have time, I will compile it myself and provide the test mod for both of you to test out.

Currently doing some notepad coding right now...

#49 Reply
Posted by Sch123 on 04 Oct, 2018 19:47
Here are some lists that I made:

Spoiler: Bug & More (hover to show)
Embermage

Icy Blast (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with the Cannon weapon (Weapon in the left hand).

Shockbolt (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with the Cannon weapon (Weapon in the left hand).

Prismatic Rift

- Instead of teleporting an opponent it's better to teleport the player if he's dying.

Arc Beam (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with the Cannon weapon (Weapon in the left hand).

Vortex Hex (Active Skill)

- For some reason the "Vortex Hex" skill sometimes can be seen clearly and sometimes not.

Oullander

RapidFire (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with all Range weapons (Cannon, Xbow, Bow, Shotgun, Pistol, Wand).
- Animation seen only use one hand only when using dual wilding weapon (Dual Pistol, Dual Wand).

Venomous Hail (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with Range weapons (Cannon, Xbow, Shotgun, Pistol, Wand). Only suitable for Bow only.

BlindMastery (Pasif Skill)

- At Tier 3 players are still get burn by fire damage

Long Range Mastery (Passive Skill)

- Can you add effect "% Chance to Break Shields"
- Can you add effect "% Less All Enemy Armor for 4 seconds"

Berserker

Blood Hunger (Passive Skill)

- Can be made to be used for all types of weapons

Rampage (Pasif Skill)

- Can be made to be used for all types of weapons

Engineer

BlastCannon (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with Cannon weapons. Only suitable for Shotgun only

Fusillade (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with Shotgun’s weapons. Only suitable for Cannon only

Ward of Board (Passive Skill)

- Can you add the "1-15% Chance to Block" effect
- Can you add the effect "1-15% Knock Back Resistance"
- Can you add the effect of "1-15% Reflected Damage"

General Skill

Offensive Mastery

- Can you add effect "- Requirement level for equip Melee Weapon"
- Can you add effect "- Requirement level for equip Range Weapon"
- It needs a nerfed attack damage to avoid OP at the beginning of the level.

Defensive Mastery

- Can you add effect "- Requirement level for equip Armor & Accessory”
- Can you add effect "- Requirement level for equip Shield”

Magical Mastery

- Can you add effect "- Requirement level for learn Spell / Magic Scroll”

Luck Mastery

- Can you add effect “+% Fame that can be obtained"

Health Mastery

- Can you add "+% effective effect using HP potion"

Mana Mastery

- Can you add "+% effective effect using MP potion"

Spoiler: New Added Skills V2 (hover to show)

New Added Skills V2

Embermage

Inferno [Share to Outlander]

⁃ Idea from [Ritual Summoning]
Guardian of Fire: Summon Fire Elemental [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Mongol Archer – Toggle Skill] & [Pokémon Evolution Stone]

Fire Stone: When using this skill you & your pet get blessing from Fire Guardian, the enemy around will be Burned by Fire aura. Activating this skill will remove the effects of Ice Stone & Lightning Stone. This skill is toggle able & you must refresh it upon investing a skill point [Toggle Skill]

Mana Cost: 15
Cooldown: 3 second

Effect for Player:
Fire Shard [%Chance to reflect enemy attacks with Fire element]
Fire Barrier [%Chance to absorb Fire attacks into MP]

Effect for Pet:
Fire Fang [Fire damage to enemy]
Fire Spirit [+Give Fire armor]

Tier I Bonus: +Physical & Magic Damage
Tier II Bonus: +%Critical Hit Chance & Silent
Tier III Bonus: +%Chance to Summoning a Small Fire Guardian that will explode on it's target

Frost [Share to Berserker]

⁃ Idea from [Ritual Summoning]
Guardian of Ice: Summon Ice Elemental [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Mongol Archer – Toggle Skill] & [Pokémon Evolution Stone]

Ice Stone: When using this skill you & your pet get blessing from Ice Guardian, the enemy around will be Freeze by Ice aura. Activating this skill will remove the effects of Fire Stone & Lightning Stone. This skill is toggle able & you must refresh it upon investing a skill point [Toggle Skill]

Mana Cost: 15
Cooldown: 3 second

Effect for Player:
Ice Shard [%Chance to reflect enemy attacks with Ice element]
Ice Barrier [%Chance to absorb Ice attacks into MP]

Effect for Pet:
Ice Fang [Ice damage to enemy]
Ice Spirit [+Give Ice armor]

Tier I Bonus: +Physical & Magic Damage
Tier II Bonus: +%Chance to slow Enemy & Silent
Tier III Bonus: +%Chance to Summoning a Small Ice Guardian that will explode on it's target

Storm [Share to Engineer]

⁃ Idea from [Ritual Summoning] Guardian of Lightning: Summon Lightning Elemental [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Mongol Archer – Toggle Skill] & [Pokémon Evolution Stone]

Lightning Stone: When using this skill you & your pet get blessing from Lightning Guardian, the enemy around will be Shock by Lightning aura. Activating this skill will remove the effects of Ice Stone & Fire Stone. This skill is toggle able & you must refresh it upon investing a skill point [Toggle Skill]

Mana Cost: 15
Cooldown: 3 second

Effect for Player:
Lightning Shard [%Chance to reflect enemy attacks with Lightning element]
Lightning Barrier [%Chance to absorb Lightning attacks into MP]

Effect for Pet:
Lightning Fang [Lightning damage to enemy]
Lightning Spirit [+Add Lightning armor]

Tier I Bonus: +Physical & Magic Damage
Tier II Bonus: +%Chance to stun Enemy & Silent
Tier III Bonus: +%Chance to Summoning a Small Lightning Guardian that will explode on it's target

Outlander

Warfare [Share to Embermage]

⁃ Idea from [Ritual Summoning]

Guardian of Poison: Summon Poison Elemental [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Assassin TL2-E - Poison Globe]

Poison Bomb: Throw a poison gas bomb [Active Skill]

Lore

⁃ Idea from [Druid - Poisonous Vine] Root of Death [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Druid - Rot Vine] Root of Life [Active Skill]

Sigil

⁃ Idea from [Plaguelord - Oppression]

Spirit of Death: Surrounded by spirits, Enemies near us will get physical damage & reduce armor [Passive Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Necromancer - Death Pact]

Pool of Death: Skill area, enemies in the area will get poison damage + slow [Active Skill]

Berserker

Hunter

⁃ Idea from [Ninja - Shunpo] Phantom Strike [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Ninja - Shadow Slash] Phantom Slash [Active Skill]

Tundra

⁃ Idea from [Ninja - Thunder Clap] Thunder Strike [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Preacher - Vorthex] Storm Vortex [Active Skill]

Shadow

⁃ Idea from [Tenebris - Wolf Pack]

Guardian of Darkness: Summon Werewolf [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [Plaguelord - Necrophage]

Blood Lust: Consume the corpses to gain some HP + Armor [Passive Skill]

Engineer

Blitz

⁃ Idea from [ADDED SKILLS FOR ENGINEER]: Blast Hammer [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [ADDED SKILLS FOR ENGINEER]: Sticky Bombs [Active Skill]

Construction

⁃ Idea from [ADDED SKILLS FOR ENGINEER]: Engulfing Flame Bot [Active Skill]

But change flame shooting animation with skill "Fire Eater" from the Double Agent Class.

⁃ Idea from [ADDED SKILLS FOR ENGINEER]: Artillery [Active Skill]

But change shooting animation with skill "Cannon Ball" from the Dread Pirate Class.

Aegis

⁃ Idea from [ADDED SKILLS FOR ENGINEER]: Vortex Time Bomb [Active Skill]

⁃ Idea from [ADDED SKILLS FOR ENGINEER - Shield Shock]

I think no need to replace Shield Shock skills with other skills, only I suggest to add effect “active when attacked at HP 50% or below, you have a 1-15% chance to cast full heal” [Passive Skill]

If I forget something, you can see what is on the Steam list.

#50 Reply
Posted by doudley on 04 Oct, 2018 20:34
Thanks!

From first look, I can see why the animations got messed up....I'll try making it universal.

#51 Reply
Posted by doudley on 05 Oct, 2018 01:20
Quote from: Sch123 on 04 Oct, 2018 19:47
Here are some lists that I made:

Shockbolt (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with the Cannon weapon (Weapon in the left hand).
This skill is not modified in Skills Expansion mod

Quote from: Sch123 on 04 Oct, 2018 19:47
Prismatic Rift

- Instead of teleporting an opponent it's better to teleport the player if he's dying.
This will give problems. Only AI can handle this quick transition of locations/positions. The player will get confused and dizzy every time this happens. So, this is a no for me. And if it is proposed to only work when the player health is critical, the next issue will be is that we cannot choose where you will get teleported, the teleport effect is random. If you just want to be teleported into a specific location, you can test this out with Pet Swap spell in my Ability Spells mod.

#52 Reply
Posted by Sch123 on 05 Oct, 2018 10:01
There is an addition to "Bug & More" in the Embermage class:

Arc Beam (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with the Cannon weapon (Weapon in the left hand).

Vortex Hex (Active Skill)

- For some reason the "Vortex Hex" skill sometimes can be seen clearly and sometimes not.

For the new idea of the Prismatic Rift skill I actually got the idea of the Ninja "Escape Mastery" skill. But if that will cause problems in the future, it looks like the Prismatic Rift skill doesn't need to be changed.

There is something I want to ask about the "Weapon Chaos" skill, especially in the Tier effect. What actually happens to each Tier? I am confused.

#53 Reply
Posted by doudley on 05 Oct, 2018 19:16
Vortex Hex skill is in the mod files but I don't remember doing modification on it...

About Prismatic Rift skill, looking back at steffire3's suggestion to remove teleportation entirely would make sense to do something about this skill, we will figure it out on a later time I guess. Let's focus on the easy stuff to change for now.

And about Weapon Chaos skill, the tier effects do give various spell casts on enemies, the higher the tier, the more spell types to be casted.

Spoiler: Tier 0 (hover to show)
         <INTEGER>EXECUTE_SKILL_COUNT:1
         [EXECUTE_SKILL]
            <BOOL>RETARGETONEXECUTE:1
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_AcidRain
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BloodWash
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_FireStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Glacial Spike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Meteor Strike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_ThunderStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Zombie Proc Skill
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Chaotic Rift
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BlindCloud
         [/EXECUTE_SKILL]
Spoiler: Tier I (hover to show)
         <INTEGER>EXECUTE_SKILL_COUNT:1
         [EXECUTE_SKILL]
            <BOOL>RETARGETONEXECUTE:1
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_AcidRain
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BloodWash
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_FireStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Glacial Spike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Meteor Strike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_ThunderStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Zombie Proc Skill
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Chaotic Rift
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BlindCloud
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Eviscerate
         [/EXECUTE_SKILL]
Spoiler: Tier II (hover to show)
         <INTEGER>EXECUTE_SKILL_COUNT:1
         [EXECUTE_SKILL]
            <BOOL>RETARGETONEXECUTE:1
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_AcidRain
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BloodWash
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_FireStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Glacial Spike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Meteor Strike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_ThunderStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Zombie Proc Skill
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Chaotic Rift
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BlindCloud
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Eviscerate
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Proc_Fullheal
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Stormclaw Proc
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_GAS
         [/EXECUTE_SKILL]
Spoiler: Tier III (hover to show)
         <INTEGER>EXECUTE_SKILL_COUNT:2
         [EXECUTE_SKILL]
            <BOOL>RETARGETONEXECUTE:1
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_AcidRain
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BloodWash
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_FireStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Glacial Spike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Meteor Strike
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_ThunderStorm
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Zombie Proc Skill
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Chaotic Rift
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_BlindCloud
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Eviscerate
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Proc_Fullheal
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Stormclaw Proc
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_GAS
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Skull Proc Skill
            <STRING>SKILL:WC_Avatar Comet
         [/EXECUTE_SKILL]

Quote from: Sch123 on 04 Oct, 2018 19:47
BlastCannon (Active Skill)

- The animation looks incompatible with Cannon weapons. Only suitable for Shotgun only
There is no special animation for this skill, what you see, is its default attack animation. No modification applied on its animation.

@steffire3 ~~I seem to find many issues with Tiered Passives....a lot of affixes are not available in my files. Can you also give me the unpacked files for this mod.~~ Also, I won't change General Skills for now, please check the proposed changes by Sch123.

#54 Reply
Posted by steffire3 on 06 Oct, 2018 10:43
@doudley @Sch123 : Thanks so much for all this info!

It's been a busy weekend for me. I'll tackle the needs on my end during the week.

#55 Reply
Posted by doudley on 06 Oct, 2018 15:54
That's alright @steffire3 . And nevermind about the tiered passives, not all passive skill's tiers are in affix.

#56 Reply
Posted by Sch123 on 07 Oct, 2018 13:54
There is an addition to "Bug & More" in Engineer classes:

Blast Cannon (Active Skill)

- Blast Cannon skill animation when using Weapon Cannon looks unsuitable, like kicking / hitting instead of firing it from a cannon.

Fusillade (Active Skill)

- Fusillade skill animation when using Weapon Shotgun looks unsuitable, it looks like it uses animation when using cannon.

Ember Hammer (Active Skill)

- Ember Hammer skill animation when using Weapon Claw & 2H Sword the weapon was seen detached from the hand.

Ember Reach (Active Skill)

- Ember Reach skill animation when using Weapon Cannon & Shotgun can it be made so that the animation is seen being shot from cannon & shotgun weapons to make it look better. (This is just my opinion).

#57 Reply
Posted by doudley on 07 Oct, 2018 18:05
Quote from: Sch123 on 07 Oct, 2018 13:54
Blast Cannon (Active Skill)

- Blast Cannon skill animation when using Weapon Cannon looks unsuitable, like kicking / hitting instead of firing it from a cannon.
Fixed. Thank you for the better description of the issue.

Quote from: Sch123 on 07 Oct, 2018 13:54
Fusillade (Active Skill)

- Fusillade skill animation when using Weapon Shotgun looks unsuitable, it looks like it uses animation when using cannon.
We need help for this. @Phanjam

Quote from: Sch123 on 07 Oct, 2018 13:54
Ember Hammer (Active Skill)

- Ember Hammer skill animation when using Weapon Claw & 2H Sword the weapon was seen detached from the hand.
Same with fusillade, this needs to have custom alternative animation for those specific weapon wield. We need help for this. @Phanjam
Or
We exclude claw weapon type for this skill.

Quote from: Sch123 on 07 Oct, 2018 13:54
Ember Reach (Active Skill)

- Ember Reach skill animation when using Weapon Cannon & Shotgun can it be made so that the animation is seen being shot from cannon & shotgun weapons to make it look better. (This is just my opinion).
Not my expertise too. But maybe we stick to its default animation on which the engr uses his/her hand rather than the weapon. If this is not what shown when the skill is used, then we have to fix this.

#58 Reply
Posted by Phanjam on 07 Oct, 2018 20:58
Hi @doudley and @Sch123 Okay will look into it as soon as i can.

#59 Reply
Posted by steffire3 on 08 Oct, 2018 02:11
@doudley : I checked the proposed changes from Sch123 on which I approve and in fact these ideas have been consistent and were even pasted onto the V1 Steam List by continuous requests throughout the past months.

Most discoveries found by Sch123 these days are usually Animation Fixes as most of the Original Skills will be functional once the V1 recommended fixes are added.

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I do wish for the Attack Skills from the Aegis Tree for the Engineer Class to be given more damage so Players can wield them as main attacks if desired however I will consider balance changes later after the essential fixes are made.

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I will keep options open on "Added Skills" however Sch123's list is good.

"General Skills" are in a good position so whether it remains the same through this entire second process of the mod is fine.

= = =

Would you say that the earlier Link you posted on "Armor Fix Fixed (by: Chthon)" is the highest priority mod for me to unpack and send currently?

Would Icy Claw's mods be important to send soon since there seems to be an agreement on their use to become Embermage's Added Skills?

= = =

Thanks for the details!

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