Hi all!  As i stated in the discord, i will push ahead with a proof-of-concept (POC) project for the CLASSLESS CHARACTER mod.  I have started using TL1 because I think TL1 has a simpler set-up of the game files which I hope will make it more sure that whatever test results I get (good or bad) are really from my files, and not other game files which i broke

My rough work-plan for this POC is...

1. Make a larger skill fold-out
2. Make skills depend on other skills
3. Make a "system of skills" which takes advantage of their interdependency (assuming i get #2 to work in TL1 )

This is just for the POC which is a really just a learning project.  Then I'll see where it goes depending on what happens with the above.

okay as a fallback i also want to learn how to widen the TL2 skill foldout like this...

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It was done by user LucasTULSA who posted this pic on forums.runicgames in 2012!

Unfortunately he did not post anything about how he did it.  I know it's a custom .skilltreeoverride file, but i'm not sure if changes like this doable just by dragging things around inside GUTS.  I'm thinking of starting with a larger skilltree background image and just drag the other elements around.

But any tips from anyone would be a big help!   Thanks!

Thanks Sch123 but what I am trying to make is very different from Classy Classes mod.  This thread should give you a better idea...

And that Talent Tree is awesome, like DOTA II 

Yes it looks really good!  Hope I can figure it out this weekend

I also used @gytfunke 's UI files from his early works on the LOE mod.  It looks like this...

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I'd like to change it a little but I need to understand it more first.  But it's close to what I am imagining

Eyy @gytfunke thanks! Yes this weekend i will experiment with things like 1 scrolling field vs many tabbed fields. As its just a POC im not planning on so many skills just yet, but i do want to try a horizontal arrangement of the skill progressions 

You are SO welcome to drop by here and throw peanuts from the gallery (gold nuggets are good too!)

It's too awesome @Phanjam
I think about a lot of passive skill and we can call it talents or perks

And I see some screenshots in this thread
http://torchmodders.com/forums/classless-character-concept-(new)/mod-directionvision/

OMG, *screaming* 

I shifted to working in TL2 because i was having trouble making the sill lock/unlock work in TL1.  So i figured out the logic for locking/unlocking of skills in TL2 - really neat!  Thanks very much to @gytfunke for teaching me this

And I have this skill tree which i'm using for testing...

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That is in-game and so far it seems stable. Don't mind the skilltree art - it's very much placeholder for now (took me forever to get the alignments right )

As you can see there are currently 4 tabs (can be more).

The idea is each tab will be for a set of skills of a certain player-type (fighter, mage, summoner, etc)

My idea is to have a "training skill" for each tab, probably a passive skill. like for the fighter tab, the training skill might give you a damage bonus that scales with strength.  The training skill will go up about 15 - 20 levels BUT EACH LEVEL WILL ACTUALLY BE ONE SKILL ON ITS OWN, and each level is locked until you've invested in the previous level.

Then there are other skills on the tree (mostly active but these can be passives too) which are locked until you've invested in a certain level of the training skills. So like "slash attack" (a destroyer skill) might unlock once you've invested in the 5th level of the training skill.  And so on for all non-training skills on the tree.



So that's my idea - comments welcome

EDIT - will take a short break from this for now as i haven't been feeling well these past few days

Haha, yeah, the alignments are a bear.  I can't remember if I ever figured them out.