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I slept again, twice. Now, I've added pics. If this is still not understandable, don't worry. I may still be able to develop a mod based around the ideas I have for Class Hierarchies.In the top pic above, the one where it shows the Weapon's Req., you can see that nearly about every requirement is displayed, but is white. This is just a matter of which Base File is being read, and by which file(s). I need a hint: and, it's not easy to show pics of this part. Any of you understand where/how the Display Name relates to the Base File?A little help would be appreciated.-Ether-

Quote from: Etherhead on 20 Jul, 2017 16:01Quote from: Etherhead on 19 Jul, 2017 23:55I'm not sure I can do it, but I'm thinking it's worth a shot!if it's possible I can.*...skip to end of quote*.Player Class inherits Class inherits Player inherits Character inherits Any & Player inherits Players And Pets."Type of Class" i.e., Berserker inherits Player Class.Archetype inherits Archetype Group inherits "Type of Group" i.e., Magical Group Base.Group Base inherits Group Class inherits Player - et c. ...Berserker Female inherits "Type of Group" Class, i.e., Generic Group Class (read: Any Class) & "Specific" Group Class, i.e., Magical Group Class.THEN, if Berserker inherits Player Class it will InstantiateVariable, See: Any.*snip snip*-EtherheadI slept on this.I need to create a Variable named TYPEVARIABLE (a special UNITTYPE). It merely inherits ANY.This should allow PlayerClass to instantiate a variable; in this case, CLASS.CLASS=Character-AnyTYPE=AnyTYPEVARIABLE=Player-Character-AnyI'm instantiating the CLASSTYPE for VARIABLE (Any), so CLASS must inherit PLAYERCLASS, I.E, BERSERKER... which DOES NOT inherit PLAYER directly, merely PLAYER_CLASS_FEMALE &/or _MALE.FINAL THOUGHT.ARCHETYPE IS ITSELF A GROUP. ARCHETYPEGROUP IS ONE VARIABLE. GENERIC GROUP MUST BE "CREATIVE", Creating an Archetype Known.  This Known, a Player Class GROUP is Inherited by the Base Class, via CLASS GROUP(s); in this case ARCHETYPE/S... MARTIAL, MELEE, OR GENERIC. {READ: NOT A CLASS, Any: Class Variable} -- Such as it were, an Archetype Class already EXISTS. IT inherits the "Group", including Player. SO Base Class must be its own class, and it will work as Anything. Player-Character-Base-Any.FOUND: SOLUTION.(if this is not understandable, please be patient. I'm working.)Edit: here are my findings, see attachment.

Quote from: gytfunke on 20 Jul, 2017 16:58I think Aherin's right.  It's important to ponder the why for a good long while.  Then the what.  Then the when and the how and the who.  In the meantime, it might be good to spend some time just learning GUTS and seeing what's possible with it and what isn't.Well, I'm of the same mind as its developers. Currently, I've been learning as I go, but what it can/cannot do seems secondary to what I can do.While I can only do what I know how to do, there are in fact certain unknown limits within GUTS itself; I've encountered a few, but I intend to break them. That is my why.How? That's a tough question... and probably best left for a future topic, but I have an overall view of games.A game isn't just a game. It is always a second life. That means scripting/coding/art direction/and everything are similar to life skills. They require them, and enrich you through the process. That process is development. So, I'm improving myself through developing a mod for a wonderful game, because I am a wonderful person (same as all of you!) and that's my final answer.

Quote from: Vkoslak on 02 Jul, 2017 15:51Ok. I think I took care of everything.  *...snip...*Sweet man! This will help so many of us out so much! Does this board have kudos ;P

Quote from: Etherhead on 19 Jul, 2017 23:55I'm not sure I can do it, but I'm thinking it's worth a shot!if it's possible I can.*...skip to end of quote*.I heard from a very reputable (my dad) source, that I need to create a variable, and instantiate the class for as its parent. I can do this, but it will look difficult to most of you. I will attempt. ASAP.Player Class inherits Class inherits Player inherits Character inherits Any & Player inherits Players And Pets."Type of Class" i.e., Berserker inherits Player Class.Archetype inherits Archetype Group inherits "Type of Group" i.e., Magical Group Base.Group Base inherits Group Class inherits Player - et c. ...Berserker Female inherits "Type of Group" Class, i.e., Generic Group Class (read: Any Class) & "Specific" Group Class, i.e., Magical Group Class.THEN, if Berserker inherits Player Class it will InstantiateVariable, See: Any.Any Player Class *may be* Player, which may be an Engineer or Berserker, thus Martial Group Class WILL INHERIT the Class of Character IF Character = Any. It doesn't. Any and Character are two different variables.Therefore, Martial Group Base must ALSO inherit Player Class Group, which is inherited by ALL CLASSES. As Generic Group Class is Any Class, Player Class Group is equal to ALL CLASSES.Questions? Should this fail, I've manipulated the variable wrong.-Etherhead

That's a good question, and deserves an equally good answer.First of all, this game is to me, no more than Diablo 2.5 under a different flagship. I'd like that to change. It can't really compete with Diablo III, although it probably does hold a candle to it (no pun intended). What I would like to see it do is outshine its spiritual predecessor.I'll try to put it this way: I love this game. I want to take it to the next level, and do so in a way that I find as pleasing as a would-be game developer does on his own first title. While this is the biggest project I've ever taken on as this sort, I do intend to take FULL ADVANTAGE OF the Editor... because GUTS is essentially an OGRE-Engine Clone. This is my basic answer; I'm working on VIP in order to take full advantage of GUTS. But, that isn't everything. My VISION is grand, a larger picture than the game is, itself, currently. But, that isn't easy, and OGRE isn't an Easy Engine to TOP. Guts takes awhile, it's tricky, and handles rather clunky compared to what it could be (bearing in mind - it's only 32-bit).So, that leaves just one thing I'm trying to do with VIP: make an Expansion worthy User-produced Modification. That is my aim and it is literally a long shot. I may give up, I may quit, I may not find the talent I need to work with me or the help I need to see my own mod integrate multiple mods within its structural system... but I will try, and try my best.Short answer: to test whether I am better than the tools I have. I've always wanted to be a game developer. I am 36 years-old and have never started a real project before, only theorized, planned to, and/or stated it. Now, I have the time, resources, and a great co-developer (my girlfriend).This mod will take Torchlight back to its Diablo clone roots, and make the ultimate, realistic, creative ARPG. I've even pondered actually cutting the project from the Steam Workshop and drawing up my own game. I believe in Runic Games, though, and their community believes in me... therefore, they must believe in me. So, finally, I will make the mod they would be, if they weren't burnt out, too busy to expand TL2, or simply working hard on other games (they are a multi-title company now after all, NOT JUST TORCHLIGHT! I want to carry the torch as a leader of mod makers if I may. Short and sweet.

I'm not sure I can do it, but I'm thinking it's worth a shot!if it's possible I can.I'd have to loop a static around a static (which i say is possible) through dynamic inheritencebut so far, i've just looped statics around a dynamic, via direct guarantee of inheritence, and a dynamic around a dynamic, via subsequent inadvertent (or indirect) inheritencein other words, you ARE a CHARACTER currently in my Alpha, not a PLAYERnow I want CLASS = CHARACTER :wink:what is a class?a class is a type which inherits character which is in direct line to inherit the player(edited)so character = playernot player > character

What do you guys know about the hierarchy editor? The latest working build can be found here:http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1086671419It's pretty straightforward, but what I'm trying to do with my hierarchy mod, is allow one player to exist in a hierarchy of classes, like a class tree. All I've managed to do so far is make one player another class... while this was interesting, he/she can only equip their own class items if that class IS their class, which ISN'T their character, currently, it's their CLASS character.So, there are only 2 classes instead of 4 Unintentional, but maybe promising? Idk.What I'm thinking is this...I like the idea that Character-any can and will inherit properties of the Player-character-any-et c. above, if their Base file's base is that Player's Base's child... a "title" of a UNIT TYPE's Character, or "CLASS".so, if this makes sense to ANY of you, would you think that I could take these UNITTYPE Files:ARCHETYPE_CLASS(Gen.1)CLASS (Character)CLASSBASE_CLASSCLASSBASE_GROUPGROUP (Type Guarantor)GROUP_CLASS (Gen.2)TYPE(Class Inheritor)and make something of them?This is in addition to all the CLASS_CLASS unit types, such as BERSERKER_CLASS, BERSERKER_FEMALE...Any idea?If not, I hope to impress without needing help. At any rate, it's tough to imagine, easy to chart, and like second nature by now... just about to run through a first phase of integration.

This is completely doable with a registry editor, or if your keyboard has a driver (usually its the particular keyboard's driver that was used to do it with) then you can of course make any key function as you'd like.My Logitech K810 Bluetooth illuminated board allows me to disable keys simply by clicking a check box. I sometimes disable the WINDOWS key and CAPSLOCK for instance. It occasionally was a little pain to undo, but nothing too major. Look into it with just a simple search for yourself and or for him/herself.-Etherhead

Quote from: Phanjam on 19 Jul, 2017 03:39[...] we should probably settle on "dev-work management style" - *Snip* for your consideration ... aw, how nice! thanks for your reply

This mod is released, yeah? As a patch, into the game? I would like to improve on this, with my Hierarchy mod. Probably TRIPLE the items and give practically everything its own handpicked requirement. Please, let me know what you think athttp://steamcommunity.com/app/200710/discussions/0/2132869574253879807/ or on these boards in the appropriate forum.

Well, I'm new on this board, and have never really scripted before. I have just created a trick of the trade. Instead of being one of four classes, in my Alpha called HIERARCHY, would you like to be a Magical Class? No problem, just choose Outlander or Embermage! Instead of being a magical character, would you enjoy taking on the big jobs and carrying the best weapons & armor in game? No problem! Just choose a Martial Class, either an Engineer or the Berserker. Either way, you can be Any Class! All with the click of a button. BUT! (and that's a big but), I need Beta testers in order to get through Phase II: including all the weapons currently in-game in this new mod. They all need to be either one, the other, a specific character's item requirement, or any (or no requirement). That takes time and attention from others' input driven comments. Please allow me time to get back to you as I think this mod idea is more than just a topic. It's a game changer!For info, see: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1082113416&/or to be a Beta Tester, just shoot me a pm here on this forum.So, how do you guys feel about this? Is this a good change to the game?Would you like to see more? How about pics... and what of? New classes and such?All right, in nomine pace.-Etherhead

Everyone, if anyone is interested. I've opened up a ShareFile account. I do occasionally blow money on useless stuff, but this seems quite useful. It's kind of like Drop Box afaik. https://www.sharefile.com/ and if you open up an account, I can add you to the group and sharing files is a snap.Here's what I'm looking at so far.15 classes, Melee, Other, and Ranged.This itself is not exactly ideal. I'm open to ideas, but here's a picture of my best attempt.FYI, the file structure for a hypothetical mod would have 72 files contained in about 13 folders.-Ether-

Quote from: Phanjam on 15 Jul, 2017 06:46Hey @Etherhead im sorry to report i cannot get the game to start with EoT loaded. I've removed all other mods but it only gets up to the splash graphic for me, then it kicks out.Yes, I had a serious error where I overwrote the mod and uploaded the mistake. It should have been working since about an hour after the mistake, due to some help from my girlfriend re-uploading it. If that's not the case, I'll find out asap. It should be working now at any rate.Edit: Make sure you're using version 40

Embers of Twilight is a complete Class Overhaul. VIP is itself a collection of mods which work together in order to essentially change the entire game from the ground up.Here is some much requested information. Please forgive me as I've been very hard at work on the "Archetypes" MOD, which is merely a PIECE of Embers. So, without further ado, here is what I am going to do.1) Rewrite the classes. Every class. Each class will fit into a subclass. Subclasses will have perks.2) Custom Charts for each Archetypes. Varying health, MP, and damage you are able to do depending on your type.3) Gender differences.4) a HUGE amount of random weapons. not all items will have requirements, but many of them do.and5) this is strongly speculative at this moment, but Monster Classes (which will have weaknesses and such) AND Player Race. This will require a new UI to function. Also, possibly I would like to be able to sort through each class by Archetype in the menu/s.Further information to be forthcoming.So far, about a 1/4 of this is already implemented, working, and/or proven to be possible without changing the game's hard code. All I require is time and a few team members.-EtherLinks:ARCHETYPES SUB-PROJECT: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1062227087VIP: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=970959498