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Modding => Modding Questions => Topic started by: Bill Hartman on February 10, 2015, 08:07:55 pm


Title: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Bill Hartman on February 10, 2015, 08:07:55 pm
Hi  folks,

I was wondering how to do the Molten trait from Diablo III:

http://www.diablowiki.net/Molten (http://www.diablowiki.net/Molten)

Ideas?

Also, I would like to set up an additional class of boss between Champion and Boss, the Rare monster (note the boss in the link Shakal is in yellow instead of orange or purple):

http://diablo.gamepedia.com/Rare_Monsters (http://diablo.gamepedia.com/Rare_Monsters)

Thanks for all of your help!

Bill

Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Kva3imoda on February 10, 2015, 09:18:57 pm
Ideas?
Dragon Vyrax can do something like that. As I understand it, while moving a monster should always spawn damaging puddles. I think this is not difficult.
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: gytfunke on February 12, 2015, 09:28:56 am
Hey Bill!  The molten shouldn't be too bad to set up.  Mostly, you want a persistent skill that drops a damage shape/particle effect at the feet of your monster every few seconds.


I'd start by looking here:

http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=57868

It's about setting up toggleable skills, but the basis of a toggleable skill is a persistent effect.  You can figure out how to give your monster a looping effect from this guide.
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: gytfunke on February 12, 2015, 03:37:16 pm
Hey again Bill,

I didn't have much time before writing that last reply and I feel like it wasn't very helpful.

The information you want to get out of Twinkle's post about toggleable skills is how to make a looping layout that essentially gives you an active skill with an infinite duration.

If you download my Wildling mod and unpak it you can use the Hand of Gaea (or Blessing of Gaea?) passive skill as a template.  It works like a permanent aura.  It does that by having a looping layout that is always on.  Every loop, the layout fires a damage shape.

You can use that basic system with a minor variation.  You'll obviously need to change the particle effects, but you'll also want to change that ATTACHES setting to false.  Aside from that, you'll just need to change the targeting.  Otherwise, almost exactly what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: TwinkleToes on February 12, 2015, 04:16:58 pm
hmmm, btw thanks for referencing my old post gyt :D

but i wouldn't approach this by creating a toggle skill.
i would instead simply make a passive skill that disperses the trail, you'd just have to make sure the damage shapes loop and doesn't attach, i would use the skill Share The Wealth from the outlanders kit as a basis then work of that.
as for how to make it a rare monster affix.
im guessing you would apply the passive to monsters via an affix using the LEARN SKILL effect exactly how players characters learn additional spells, like summon skeleton etc.




Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Bill Hartman on February 12, 2015, 05:10:03 pm
Thanks guys! I will work on this...I am sure I will have questions!  :P

Next project will be an ubermap...the infernal machine from the Median XL mod (Diablo II). Can you tell I am a Diablo fan?

Have a good one,

Bill
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Bill Hartman on February 12, 2015, 05:35:48 pm
Hi Twinkletoes,

Thanks for the reply!
Looks like the share the wealth would use the charge bar as a timer...

I found this mod (TL1) from Phanjam (thanks Phamjam!):

http://www.runicgamesfansite.com/downloads.php?s=9132403b469fa36a401cbafe7f0d7739&do=file&id=843 (http://www.runicgamesfansite.com/downloads.php?s=9132403b469fa36a401cbafe7f0d7739&do=file&id=843)


@Phanjam: May I use this mod for my purposes? Due credit will be given of course.

This should fit the bill nicely. Tips for converting just the skill and acid pools/spit to Torchlight 2?

Thanks Again,

Bill
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: TwinkleToes on February 13, 2015, 02:48:58 am
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Hi Twinkletoes,

Thanks for the reply!
Looks like the share the wealth would use the charge bar as a timer...

based on your reply it seems like you dont fully understand how to make a skills with GUTS, the charge bar part of share the wealth is a minor add on that can be easily taken out, all this add on does is prevent the passive damage shape from firing when you have no charge. 

what you should be looking at is how the layout of the passive operates, you can simply get rid of the STAT REQ strings bellow the events and you'll have your bare bones passive skill, ready for you to modify into the molten trail passive

if your utterly confused, PM me or reply back and i can give you the basic code and a properly adjusted layout file to start you off with making this skill..

also IMO, if you choose to go with phans acid monster setup, youll find yourself even more confused, the mod is described as a monster which spits acid ON HIT and ON DEATH, these two applications are completely different and are far more simple to implement than what your trying to achieve and wont provide you with any clues on how to create a passive aura/trail skill.. and you may also find errors with converting the TL1 editors scripting language with GUTS, even though its a predecessor

Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Kva3imoda on February 13, 2015, 04:17:32 am
how to make a skills with GUTS
I too don`t understand. This is difficult for me.  :'(
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Bill Hartman on February 13, 2015, 10:32:51 am

based on your reply it seems like you dont fully understand how to make a skills with GUTS, the charge bar part of share the wealth is a minor add on that can be easily taken out, all this add on does is prevent the passive damage shape from firing when you have no charge. 

what you should be looking at is how the layout of the passive operates, you can simply get rid of the STAT REQ strings bellow the events and you'll have your bare bones passive skill, ready for you to modify into the molten trail passive

if your utterly confused, PM me or reply back and i can give you the basic code and a properly adjusted layout file to start you off with making this skill..

also IMO, if you choose to go with phans acid monster setup, youll find yourself even more confused, the mod is described as a monster which spits acid ON HIT and ON DEATH, these two applications are completely different and are far more simple to implement than what your trying to achieve and wont provide you with any clues on how to create a passive aura/trail skill.. and you may also find errors with converting the TL1 editors scripting language with GUTS, even though its a predecessor

I think Kva3imoda and I could use a template and whatever assistance you have an inclination for. I am willing to do the work and would be more than happy to share. I like this site...very collaborative.

Have a good day,

Bill
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: TwinkleToes on February 17, 2015, 01:21:41 am
hey man sorry for the long reply, in my short breaks i decided to create the whole skill itself and apply it to a character, since i was interested in the idea, anyways heres a short gif demonstrating what i made
http://www.gfycat.com/ShamelessMediocreElkhound

ill post a full guide on how i went about doing this with thorough explanation later, but for now just know that this is a possibility
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Bill Hartman on February 17, 2015, 10:29:58 am
hey man sorry for the long reply, in my short breaks i decided to create the whole skill itself and apply it to a character, since i was interested in the idea, anyways heres a short gif demonstrating what i made
http://www.gfycat.com/ShamelessMediocreElkhound

ill post a full guide on how i went about doing this with thorough explanation later, but for now just know that this is a possibility

Wow! Looks great!
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: TwinkleToes on February 17, 2015, 11:56:39 am
thanks, ill be going into very heavy detail, on how to create this skill system, but for now im busy with other stuff, so sit tight  ;)
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Kva3imoda on February 18, 2015, 06:23:53 am
a short gif demonstrating what i made
Looks really cool Twinkle!  :)

Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Phanjam on February 18, 2015, 11:04:29 pm
Quote from: Kva3imoda
Looks really cool Twinkle!  :)

Quote from: Bill Hartman
Wow! Looks great!

Gotta second the motion!  REALLY fantastic looking effect there @TwinkleToes !
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Phanjam on February 18, 2015, 11:14:40 pm
Quote from: Bill Hartman
[Phanjam: May I use this mod for my purposes?

Heyya Bill! That mod was a collaboration so it wouldn't be all up to me (in fact, I did the least of the work!).  But I absolutely know that none of them (SixShot, Rusty, SpacePirate) would object to any modder using their work as a base!

Am tickled pink you thought that mod might help you, but Twinkle's right - it's not what you need
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: Bill Hartman on March 22, 2015, 12:32:40 pm
Hi Twinkle Toes,

I was wondering if you could upload the molten mod so I could reverse engineer it?

Thanks,

Bill
Title: Re: Molten Trait and Rare Monsters
Post by: TwinkleToes on March 25, 2015, 12:56:40 am
sorry bout the lateness bill, i occasinally lurk the forums to see what happening but i currently cant do much from my position atm

anyway as requested here's an attachment for the skill and particle files, they are not linked to anything, meaning that you wont see anything when you go into a character, you'll have to append them yourself to a character/monster you intend to test them out with

if you have trouble downloading that pm me or post back here and ill chuck you a google drive link or a link from an upload website